NHS - WTF is going on.

The_Carpet_Frog

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My partners mother was taken into William Harvey Hospital today by ambulance at approximately 3.00pm with pneumonia.
We couldn't get there until 5.00pm and we had no idea where in the Hospital she would have been taken so we naturally went to the main entrance reception to ask. We was told to go to A&E, so thinking she hadnt understood we explained that she was brought in by ambulance and would have been admitted. Again we was told to go down to A&E, and off we went to A&E.
At the A&E reception we asked again if they could tell us where she was, she looked her up on the computer and said "is she not in the waiting area?" We turned around and there in a packed (no exaggeration) waiting room sat in one of those crappy hospital wheelchairs was this frail 84 year old woman who has pneumonia. It turned out that she had been sat outside in the ambulance for an hour than in the waiting room for another hour. I dont know what anyone else thinks but to me that is disgusting.
We asked to speak to someone and they did get her seen in about 5 minutes, but we was then told that there is a 9hr wait, did they really expect a frail very ill pensioner to sit in a waiting room for another 9 hours ???
Well we wasnt gonna have that so went and spoke to someone else to tell them that we were going to take her elsewhere and she got it sorted straight away. Within 15 minutes she had a bed (although not yet on a ward) and had been for an x-ray.

I cant complain about the staff at William Harvey Hospital as they were all very helpful, I blame that twat who lives at No 10.

Sorry for the little rant I had to vent my spleen.
 

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That is shockingly crap service. Thoughts are with her, hope she`ll be ok.

If only we had some more hospitals and Doctors & Nurses. But we cant afford it, after all we have barely got the 40+ million a day to hand to give to the EU.
 

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UTTERLY CRAP!!

Hope she makes a speedy recovery.
 

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Couldnt agree more. I cant speak more highly of doctors and nurses, but that ****wit at No 10 I have a few choice words to say about him.

Still doesnt affect the politicians does it? Theyre all private so to hell with us :rant:

Anyway, hope shes feeling better soon :1thumbup:
 

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Actually none of this surprises me, old people get a raw deal in the NHS, there is no glory in treating old people, even if you fix their current problems they are still old, frail and likely to just get more problems. It is good that you were able to get staff to move on this when you applied some pressure, but unfortunately this shows another problem with the NHS, those who make the most fuss get the most attention, it is good that your mother in law has some people who can make a fuss on her behalf because that does really work.

I know quite a few people who work in the NHS and have heard their many tales of woe about the service. It is not just a matter of money and politics, it is a huge question of ethics, good managment, efficiency and moral responsibility. There are many very talented and dedicated staff in the NHS, but plenty of make weights and time fillers too. Unfortunately good staff tend to move on to specialist areas of the service where they can get the get best pay and career fulfilment, bad poorly motivated staff tend to linger in the less prestigious areas, such as working with old people on the respiratory wards. Since it is very hard to get rid of poor staff, unless they do something very wrong, bad managers and nursing staff get shunted from post to post leaving a trail of destruction in their wake.

I know someone in the nhs who has just had a very good retiring manager replaced with a manager who has been foisted on them because in their last post this manager was so incompentent that none of the staff would speak to them and so had to be moved. The new manager has already lead to multiple resignations from staff in the new department they have taken over. One person has made a complete mess in two department they have run and lead to a drain of good dedicated staff, yet they are still employed, it beggars belief.

Another of the problems with the nhs is that the common perception of it held by the public is that it is a great service, with gloriously dedicated staff and saintly nursing staff, a view further built up by unions, media and politicians, which means any attempt at change is met with resistance and suspicion. Successive governments have all tried to make improvements to the service, but instead of increasing the flexibility and efficiency of the service, have bloated managerial systems, vastly inflated its cost and puts service users at the bottom of its priorities.

The recent scandals at Stafford Hospital and the like are not surprising, in fact the only surprise is there are not more of them.
 

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Well I have mixed views, I don't blame the government totally, they are trying to clear our country of debt but just in the wrong way.

I for one hate the NHS, this is due to them being totally incompetent imo. I have a skin condition and had to wait in a room for a few hours about a year ago. Sitting in the waiting area, I witnessed four women I'm assuming in some sort of administration job moving from office to office just chatting, this was for the duration of my wait and was still going as I was leaving. These people don't deserve the pay to sit and chat sack them and hire some nurses. I also think they need a local purchaser at each hospital, at one hospital they pay £40 for sterile gloves, I can get a box for £5 this happens on most of there purchases and no one has thought about fixing it. Sack the managers of managers, the people who sit in an office waiting for retirement doing sweet FA on a huge salary. I for one think our hospitals should be like in America if you don't have insurance you get well enough to leave and sent on your way. Yes I'm aware this sounds harsh but it would work and hospitals will be make money rather then waste money.

I think the government needs to become less of a nanny state for the chavs and scum who don't work and get more money then I do I they have kids support yourself or the kid gets given to someone who can. They should get stacked into high rise flats and given only food vouchers or a weekly hamper with enough food for that week. You see these scum drinking and smoking on the streets a luxury not everyone who pays taxes can afford.

And as for immigration become the same as Australia you only get in if you are skilled and can pay taxes otherwise go home.

Now look what you gits have made me do I'm all angry :rant:
 

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Always an emotive issue is politics. Never like talking about them because it never ends well.

Jkrohn1 said:
I think the government needs to become less of a nanny state for the chavs and scum who don't work and get more money then I do I they have kids support yourself or the kid gets given to someone who can. They should get stacked into high rise flats and given only food vouchers or a weekly hamper with enough food for that week. You see these scum drinking and smoking on the streets a luxury not everyone who pays taxes can afford.
Make no mistake, there ARENT enough jobs for everyone. Pure & simple. Having spent nearly 2 years on the dole I can say it sucks the big one. Friends, family and neighbours treat you differently, and no not in a nice way. Even my older kids seem to have lost some respect for me. I hate the way I cant honour my promise to take the girls to Disneyland. I hate the fact that my kids get treated differently by other kids because Im on the dole. I hate how its put a reall strain on my wife; Im old fashioned and believe I should be providing for her and feel Ive let ehr down badly. I hate how Im treated and spoken too like a lump of shit by the "customer service advisors" at the Job Centre. But most of all, I hate being poor. And I am poor. Thank god me and the wife dont drink or smoke, as our quality of life wouldnt be worth living. Actuaries have carefully calculated the barest minimum required for my family to survive, yet David Cameron feels we can afford to pay more by cutting benefits (housing/council tax etc). The grass is not ****ing greener over this side at all, and I cannot see why anyone in their right mind would want to be on the dole at all. Its soul destroying and heart breaking trying to find a job. And its frightening too. Im 45 now, and Im terrified of the fact that I might not ever work again. That this is it. This is my lot. As for the tracksuit brigades that sit around smoking shit and drinking; well who can blame them. At this precise moment in time, the whole world is in a right shit state, and if you're the bottom of the pile you're gonna cop it the worst. Remember shit rolls down hill.

I lost my job through absolutely no fault of my own, yet Cameron seems to be fixated on people like me. This is the first time Ive ever found myself out of work, yet Im the devil for relying on state handouts.

You want to have a pop at bunch of leeches who are no good to society and give nothing back then look no further than Westminister. Dont forget what our poor soldiers found out when forced to work in the offices; the exhorbitant expense claims made by these greedy ****ers. I bet none of them have had their lifestyles changed at all. :rant:
 

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Well said, Slaine! :clap:

Halo is in a similar position, having been unemployed for nearly 2 years. In Halo's case she gets zero benefits whatsoever because I am deamed to be earning enough. That's as long as I have a job, working for a local authority there has been a pay freeze for several years and each year more and more staff are being made redundant because of the cuts forced on authorities by the government.

There isn't the work out there for everyone and don't believe the shit about unemployment having gone down under this government. The numbers classed as unemployed may have reduced a little but the number of people who are underemployed has risen drastically. A nice fiddling of figures by the government to try and make them look good when in fact the situation is dire.

Are there scroungers on benefits? Undoubtedly. However, not all those on benefits are scroungers, I'd say the majority of folk aren't and just want a job and to pay their way. Unlike the scum in government who are on very high salaries and make exorbitant expenses claims every year on second homes (scrap that, stick them all in a cheap hotel when they are in London!) and other items that we would consider to be personal and not business expenses. :rant:
 

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I agree, it sucks haairy ones. :1thumbdown:
 

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I agree with everything Slaine and Martok have said...... I also think the public are being brainwashed by the media who rant on and on about the scroungers (the majority of unemployed are not scroungers) and immigration etc and ignoring the real issues...... :brick:
 
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