Multi Next Generation of Consoles!

I will buy the puss4, but I will wait for a couple of years after release date. I bought an Xbox360 on release(2 weeks after release to be exact) and had nothing but bother, so I can't see me ever purchasing another Xbox, the way I was treated by the Microsoft repair service, and the robots who took my calls completely pissed me off. Every time my Xbox made a noise of any sort during game play I thought ''here we go again'' Completely ruined any enjoyment I had at the start of this generation. So there will be no Xbox of any form sitting under my TV.
This is actually my 2nd PS3, my ''fat'' one broke down after 2 years of constant gaming. The difference between my PS3 breaking down and my Xbox breaking down was ~ I was shocked when my PS3 broke down.
There's loads of life left in the PS3, and enough games that I haven't played to keep me busy for quite a few years. I have heard a lot of people saying that Xbox Live is a far superior service to PS Network, I don't know. My Xbox never worked long enough for me to find out. Cross game chat is the usual argument that is wheeled out on every opportunity.

 

i dont want to pay to play online, so if sony keep it free then thats where I am. For me their service is mostly adequate. I am in no rush to move on yet, ps3 is still going great, sure graphics will get bette , but what else , current gen tells us it will be an endless loop of cookie cutter retreads and rehashed franchise games that mostly fill the shelves. Forgive me if I dont rush to buy a new black box.

 

Hi ColSonders.
The way I play games is like this ~ I buy a game as cheap as I can get it, play it for 10 or 15 hours over 2 weeks or so, finish it, give it to my nephew then move onto something else. I never really got interested in the Online multiplayer side of gaming. I played Killzone 2 online for a few months and that's about that.
Who do you think has produced the best exclusive games this generation?
What games(single player campaign) can I not play on the Puss3 that would make me want to go and buy an Xbox360?
What's your views on the Kinect v Move? Do you play any Kinect games?

 

I think a better question would be what system is better to play games on. Some of the installs and patches on the PS3 have been a joke, and some of the games have not been ported very well at all, with corrupting game saves and frequent freezing. Admittedly some of these differences are minor, and unless you saw the 360 version up & running you would feel aggrieved. Skyrim is a classic example here. As for the games, what about Halo, Gears Of War, Forza, Fable, Crackdown, Left For Dead etc etc.

Developers were all in agreement that the PS3 is very hard to program for, and porting from system to system isnt as straight forward as it was last generation.

Ive got Move and Kinect. Kinect is far superior to Move in terms of overall abilities (facial recognition, voice control, UI controls), and playing Mass Effect or Skyrim with voice controls on is something else. I do like both, but theres no denying theyre made to appeal to the younger market. Saying that, I have found a few gems on Kinect like Fable The Journey and Kinect Star Wars which are pretty good. I'd have to say that in terms of accuracy in shooting, then I'm on the side of Move. It does seem to be more precise using a big glowing ball instead of your hand. But both Move & Kinect suffer from shovelware, and there is a lot of shit out for both of these which doesnt do it any favours.

Anyway, as for what system I get next will not be determined by who releases first. Im going to be hard pressed to get both on release (either PS4 or Xbox 720). Backwards compatability, retention of achievements/trophies & friends, are both prerequisites. I imagine theyll both have a similar spec under the hood, as has this generation, so price will be a big factor. Sonys pricing strategy, along with the continual delays in Europe for anything, means its highly probable I'll get the Xbox 720 over the PS4. I will get a PS4, but when the price is right. Ive thoroughly enjoyed the Killzones, Uncharteds, Journey etc etc, and I'd hate to miss out on the next generation versions of these, along with all my new Senior friends too

 

Thanks ColSonders and Slane for your replies. I think that the Playstation 4 needs to come bundled with a good quality headset for those who want to play online. Trophy support is a must, and it would be nice if trophies earned on the PS3 carried over.
I know what you mean about games on the PS3 not running properly Slaine, Area 51 was about the worst experience I had on any console, it was just unplayable.
I have seen clips of Gears of War, and it looks interesting, but not interesting enough to make me want to forget about how microsoft treated me when I owned the 360. The last game I played on the 360 was Halo3 and it didn't do a lot for me. I watched a couple of levels of Halo4 on YouTube and wasn't impressed enough to make me want to play it, I was eager to play it when it was released, I was even going to get a loan of a 360(and hope it didn't break down whilst I had it) just to play it, but as I said it didn't look up to much (graphics, enemy AI or gameplay).

 

I just watched a video on how to build a steam box. Basically it was a gaming PC on a budget of £300 . The quality of graphics and the prices of games on steam may entice me to biuld my own gaming PC next year.( Or i should say this year).

 

My craptop is done and was considering building a PC again but with the likes of steam which I already have a lot of games for. It would probably stop me playing console games. With the likes of minecraft and Day z already being so good it a wonder I haven't jumped back over to a PC. If this steam box is a console style pc which is upgradable there would be no need to buy another console.
If i was gonna get any, and going from past experience, I would have to go PS4. If the specs for the steam box is as good as I expect I might be swinging that way.

 

Depending on price is whether I'll get the new Xbox or PS4.

Also it depends on which Sony console, PS3 or PS4 will get GT6, hoping PS3.

Theres still loads of life left in the PS3, and I read somewhere, think CVG, that Sony has finally stopped shipping PS2s to Japan, 13 years after launch.

The 360 is at its end, so I guess the new Xbox will be out 1st.

 

GT6 will be released for PS4 surely. And that console won't be released before 2014.

 

Herman after several you would change your mind like I did. Microsoft had built a great system with better performance then the ps3 but very similar spec (shared memory on the 360 gives it better performance). I think the OS for xbox is better but I prefer the games on ps3. If Sony pull there fingers out this time around and make a great OS that works and use a faster reading Blu ray and a big cache eliminating the games install, i think they will be onto a winner.

I noticed over the holidays when playing on my ps3 there are more kids on I'm assuming this is a price thing as the ps3 isn't as expensive as it used to be. This is one of the main reasons I like the ps3 there wasn't too many kids playing and singing down your headset

Another downside of this gens playstation is developers hate working with it, the likes of Skyrim is fooshed due to hardware issues. I loved Skyrim but with the constant freezing (hardware issues) and quests becoming uncompletable (devs fault) I had no choice but to call it a day.

I hope this time around devs stop releasing half arsed games that require constant patching just to get them playable.

 

I think a line can be drawn in the sand with the last generation of consoles. They both sufferred from a multitude of critical failures (YLOD and RROD), and Im sure lessons were learnt. I cant see either one wanting to lose any credibility from being a producer of unreliable hardware again, and Im sure Sony are going to ensure their console is developer friendly this time too. Its for these reasons that I dont think any of us should judge either Sony or Microsoft too harshly on their upcoming consoles, because I truly believe they will be significantly different and better in every way. Developers wont baulk at the extra processing power, but thats not going to ensure success here, and pretty much everyone acknowledges this fact. Innovation will be key here.

The secret to the PS2 success (despite being the least powerful console at the time, with after-sale tacked on network features) was its dvd playback. Its often been cited that the PS2 was instrumental in the success of the dvd. I'd say its more of the case that it put an affordable dvd player under the tv. DVD was always assured of success as people were tired of video. They were big & bulky, the quality deteriorated quickly, messing around with the tracking was always a pain. How cool was it when we learned that there was a new media available that only showed signs of deterioration after 1000 views, and allowed you to jump instantly in to any part of a film, and the quality far surpassed anything on VHS. I dont think the PS3 was as successful this time round because of a couple of factors......
1/ Noone was ready to replace their entire film collection again, as the quality is still more than acceptable on DVD
2/ Blu-rays and their respective players were just too expensive
3/ Blu-ray brought nothing to the PS3 other than large installs & headaches (as the PS3 couldnt read the required data fast enough from the disc)

Im not saying blu ray isnt a success story, because it is. Its here to stay. But theres no denying its not the revolution that DVD was. I dont think 3D brought much to the table either. Very niche and expensive, and probably explains why every 3D blu ray comes bundled with a standard blu ray edition, to encourage people to make the switch.

One thing I will say is do not underestimate Microsoft. There is no denying that Microsoft has the superior online platform. Yes you have to pay for it, but like anything in life if you want cheap dont expect the same quality. Dont get me wrong, Im not a huge advocate of Xbox Gold membership, and I begrudge paying it. Thankfully for the last 3 years I have consistently paid less that £28 a year, which makes it more of any easier pill to swallow. But I would never be without it either.

If the next generation comes along and all it is is more HDD space and faster processors, I will be severely disappointed. I cant see this happening as I said earlier, because I for one would be just as happy to play the PS3 port of the PS4 game, choosing to forgoe the "next generation". And I think this rings true for a lot of people. Sony & Microsoft have got to do something spectacular to get us all enthused. I think they will deliver, and Im dying to see what it is.

Things that frighten me are the price of the consoles and the games, and latest alarming bit of gossip on the net about Sonywith regards to their latest patent. I think Sony will suffer greatly if they use this anti-2nd hand software on their PS4. To be the only console that cant play used games will be severely detrimental to them, and I cant believe theyve posted a patent on this. And dont forget, the definition of "used" means you wouldnt be able to play your sons game, or on the other PS4 you have upstairs. You really would be limited to just playing it on the one console. And say if you get the YLOD???? Does this mean your game wont play on a new console owned by you, or will it be linked to your PSN id??? The Vita does this to some extent by denying you the ability to play a game under your own profile. If you borrow a game, you have to wipe the entire progress of the owner before you can use it with your own PSN id. Thankfully its only limited to a few titles, as most developers dont seem to have bothered with this capability. But its got to have had an effect on sales.

The Wii-U has been heavily criticised for this already. If you buy a digital download, it is locked to that console (not account), and can never be downloaded to anything different. So if your Wii-U packs up, all your digitally downloaded games are lost for all time.