Master levels vs Warframe/Weapon XP

[Northlander]

Morning All!

As I understand it, having level 30 'gear' is good for battles but bad for your Mastery levels...

So the question is, there must be a minimum Master level for each Warframe with all weapons when at level 30?

For example I'm a level 3 with 1 level 27 Warframe and all of my weapons are level 30.

Granted my XP will now slow as I approach level 30 for my 'Frame, so it's looking like you need to get additional Warframes and weapons even if you don't want to?

 

[HERMAN_JELMET]

Your weapons still level up regardless of your warframe level or rank, A second warframe isn't necessary to rank or level up. Your rank will still earn XP if your warframe and weapons are level 30.

 

[HaloJ]

Mastery rank points are only gained in the following ways :

100 points : Leveling up a weapon / sentinel weapon
200 points : Leveling up a Warframe / sentinel
~61 points : completing a level for the first time

Any forma reset weapons/warframes don't give mastery points as they have already reached level 30 before the reset.

Source : http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Mastery_Rank

 

[HERMAN_JELMET]

:0 I never knew that!

 

[Northlander]

So now armed with that info (and the fact you do need new equipment to allow for XP progression) would it be fair to say for every new Warframe and a set of weapons, you could gain around 4 master ranks everytime you rank those up to level 30?

I'm only thinking this as I'm almost a level 4 with a few levels to go on my Warframe, Sentinel and it's weapon, so if the progression is the same as my first 4 levels, starting from new, I'm expecting my next 4 levels should be the same with a new Warframe and weapons?

 

[Northlander]

Any forma reset weapons/warframes don't give mastery points as they have already reached level 30 before the reset.

Source : http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Mastery_Rank

If this is the case why do I hear of people reseting their weapons or Warframe's to 'keep using them' ???? Or do they reset them at level 29? (if that's how you beat the level 30 lock?)

 

[HaloJ]

I believe you can only reset something at lvl30 (although I've not tried). Each Mastery tier requires more and points to score. I'm level 5 and got there with 2 warframes and probably about 15 weapons as well as unlocking all of Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars and Saturn.

If you delete a weapon before you've got it to 30 you don't get the points you've already gained when you start the weapon again.

 

[HERMAN_JELMET]

You can only reset at level 30. Adding a Forma makes the weapon more powerful by adding more polarity slots.

 

[Northlander]

You can only reset at level 30. Adding a Forma makes the weapon more powerful by adding more polarity slots.

So that's the tradeoff, resetting a weapon to make it more powerful but at the expense of gaining no extra XP as you level it again...

Thanks for all your advice, that's weapon XP covered

 

[HERMAN_JELMET]

I have lots of stuff to level but only a few bits that are forma'd for use in high level mission, bosses, alerts etc

 

[Northlander]

I'd noticed last night that I was still obtaining 4000+ XP for my weapons even though they are all level 30?

Does this XP all go towards my master level? Why am I still receiving XP? Obviously my Warframe was still picking up XP (level 29 now)

I forgot to make a note of my master XP beforehand to see if the XP I 'earned' from my weapons did actually apply, or if it was just showing what I would have earned. It was mentioned last night when I was talking about it in Party Chat that you actually still get XP at level 30 if it's the first time you've done that mission?

 

[Martok]

I'd noticed last night that I was still obtaining 4000+ XP for my weapons even though they are all level 30?

Does this XP all go towards my master level? Why am I still receiving XP? Obviously my Warframe was still picking up XP (level 29 now)

I forgot to make a note of my master XP beforehand to see if the XP I 'earned' from my weapons did actually apply, or if it was just showing what I would have earned. It was mentioned last night when I was talking about it in Party Chat that you actually still get XP at level 30 if it's the first time you've done that mission?

XP, otherwise known as Affinity, only relates to levelling up your weapons or Warframe.

Affinity does not directly affect a player's Mastery Rank. However, a player will gain 200 Mastery points per level on a Warframe, and 100 Mastery points per level on a weapon, that he/she levels.

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Affinity

I'm not sure why it still shows XP gains for a weapon at level 30 as the weapon cannot be levelled up further. Maybe it's to show what you would have earned if the weapons could still be levelled up or maybe it's something they need to address in a future update.

 

[Northlander]

This is what I'm seeing...

 

[Skarpar]

at the moment all extra xp you earn is wasted, supposedly in a later update this xp will be used for other purposes - I've heard several outcomes, focus and being deposited into the clan for use (not sure how these would work)

 

[Acegadgets]

Roll on Update 14, seems such a waste using your maxed out frames and weapons. I stopped using new weapons a couple of weeks back and didn't progress at all mastery wise. Now i've gone and got 2 new warframes, and 4 new weapons (almost made) to play with, so Level 7 .... here I come.